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In conversation with the father of Indian laparoscopic surgery...

Aug 15 | 2:00 PM

Join Dr. Tehemton Udwadia, known as the `Father of Indian Laparascopic Surgery`, as he talks about his epic and inspirational journey. Let's get on a fantastic discussion with him as he shares some of his memoris from his college days in JJ and KEM hospital to his path breaking contribution in the field of surgery.

[Music] good evening everybody uh firstly i would like to wish all of you a very happy independence day today we have with us a teacher a surgeon a golf player and an amateur pilot a humble healer and most of all the father of indian laparoscopic surgery doctor tahimtan udvariya he completed his medical education from sagias medical college and km hospital and then later went on to join the grand government medical college where he performed his first laparoscopic surgery which was the first ever in india he was best out by esteemed padma shri high dr welcome in 2006 and the prestigious padma bhushan in 2017 for his contributions to the indian medicine dr udwarya received the sages millennial award for the from the society of american gastrointestinal endoscopic surgeons in 2000 the same year he was awarded dr bc roy award the highest indian award in the medical category from the medical council of india we are very honored to have you sir with us we have in our audience medical students in doctors and consultants and all of us are really eager to hear your amazing journey so far sir i'm happy to be here and proud to be here and being connected with both km so please tell us about your childhood in school we actually know you have a medical background and choosing medicine made sense but what drew you towards general surgery in particular and not any other medical branches background i mean as a young guy in school i was in many schools and i had uh fight with the principal because he did not allow us to go on our final year for the hadith to get tournament he said we never went more than the second round and we didn't want to pay fees for us he appealed to the masters to help us and ultimately one day i got up on my desk and gave a speech because the previous year the principal from the molina who was from spain was called back to spain the government said that we must tell the jesuit priests to send molina back again and remove this principle and all the boys were cheering and suddenly they were silenced when i turned around i was called to my his office so i appear as an ex student of seminary school for my ssc that was the first year of the ssc exam 1949 and uh to the principal's dismay in the ssc entire and then they couldn't give me the scholarship because i was not a student of saint mary and at the assembly i was going back and the principal had to say that i'm a very good student and a very good sportsman and keen on credit but that was my but uh in recent college i joined wilson college and in wilson college i joined the national credit card xcc as the first year of the institute [Music] because i don't want to kindness and empathy he gave me 35 months and that's how i got into interest that's [Music] just with 20 minutes or less my exam wasn't missing uh lecturer passed by took away my cockroach put it in his pocket and gave me a new nice cockroach and i did a good job of it and that's how i got into medical care then in medical college i was just medical college i spent much more time in the gymkhana in the campaign than and she would sign for all four of them and she would have four different friends that nobody would make and then why in the gs medical college uh once somebody threw a book at the at the blackboard in the biochemistry professor number [Music] somebody else [Music] and i was the debate secretary the general secretary of the college and i was good at everything except study the only subject uh i remember you know in the medicine war i would hardly ever attend and whenever it went uh one term i needed professor who was the head of mexico he was the first professor mexican at 3am college i totally [Music] he was a very bright medical guy and he was a registerer and i had a patient with a cardiac murmur so dr raghun asked me how many types of cardiac murmurs are there and i said two he was so impressed with my knowledge that he asked me can you tell me which two i said i can tell you one so i said which one i said okay and what is the other one my brother was trying to talk me from behind but i couldn't understand what he was saying ultimately i said inorganic and everybody started laughing because i don't think it's in organic i still don't know what the second mama is called what's the second mama called i think it's inorganic only i'm not sure was the most brilliant person i've ever met in my life he was the first professor of surgery at the km he was a surgeon he started cardiac surgery i was in his research department after i came back from england and i remained in this research department you see i was a professor of surgery as the assistant professor at the jj and i was hospitals so professor sen said that you resign as fellow at the km and continue as a phd student nobody can objectively be a student even if you are a professor at the and that is why for the entire period that i was assistant professor jj i was also a phd student at the km for research but still as i was telling you you cannot i have an idea what a fantastic person km had in professor said he was a philosopher he was a musician he was an astronomer he was a painter prolific painter he painted people like evan and hussein he was in that they used to work paint together and when he is when i go to his house you see at that painting at that time they were also unknown about it to say and that painting stacked on the wall by the dozen in every room by all three of them and said would say take any painting you like and my wife would say no no don't take this crazy painting because the mad horses and mad things i wish i had taken them i would have needed to do surgery anyway but i wish you would it was fantastic there were three tables in the experimental lab running simultaneously you know dr baldwin will be doing a shunt dr parolco will be doing a cardiac procedure i will be doing an experimental procedure for myocardial respiration and i think if the department of surgery should be documented it will be a great crime not why did you decide to leave km and join jj of practicing i'll tell you why uh i because of the cockroach and things i got good marks in the design so i could have gone into any college my father was from the jeju that turned out that they but my brother was very studious very serious and he said no no km is a serious college so i joined ku we had a lot of fun in km [Music] right now we've seen the km which has been there right now impact park was the general secretary during our batch from the same batch uh we also have like started all these cultural pests and everything and right now in fact there's like a healthy rivalry or healthy competition that goes on between grant medical and uh km in like academics and cultures so like i have to ask you this which is dearer to you jj or km both are like twins you i am what i am because of the undergraduate and portfolio training and my association even when as the jj professor said so i think from that point of view i uh km was great for me jj on the other hand has a different culture jj for example i was i started as an assistant honor and i was very fortunate to be in the unit of dr irani you see i was also the one at children's my first love was pediatric surgery the pediatric surgeon there was no department of pediatrics so i did my job at one day children's learned periodically there went to england i was in both uh uh iran that i want this boy in my unit as a necessity and maybe he ran a sort of guy that even the dean could not question what he wanted he tell the few choices where to go so i was in iran and there i was doing full liberty to do what i liked provided that i was not doing anything destructive or harmful to the patient would let me do whatever i wanted and that is how there is no objection when i said i want to do liposuction in jj we had about 50 patients for mastering a lot of testing of 25 and their patients on mattresses besides the bed under the bed in the corridor going right up to the main elevator and that was because there was no diagnostic facility the very beginning would take three to four and because uh my innocence was late i went into the small theater where gynecologist dr motasha was doing something i had never seen get the eye to a leftover slope and i said what are you doing and she said i'm doing a laparoscopy but i said what is the lacrosse before he says come and have a look so i had a look and then i said immediately that this is the answer to early diagnosis we are teaching hospital which has no infrastructure that is how in 1972 laparoscopy came into india not as a tribute to high technology not as a tribute to what was doing it being done in the west but purely to help in diagnosis in a poor hospital with no financing that is why and how laparoscopy entered india in 1972 and when i started leprosy everybody started making fun also he said that who is this coward who is trying to keep we have to people they don't like wide open and be a surgeon not a coward but in small town india rural india where laparoscopes were available for family at that time the family planning the program was at its peak in the mid mid 17th and there were laparoscopic available in rural areas and then i said why not use this for diagnostic laptop so these surgeons are very happy and that is how i travel all over india demonstrating diagnosis and any questions now you suit your questions that's a very good lesson for our viewers we don't always have to look to the best for solutions or for newer technologies we you can learn something new if you connect with the rural india as well i'll give you another instance if you go to rural area you will be made humble by the quality of surgery done in rural india every time i used to go and try and teach i come back humble educated and really feeling that i need to learn more surgery from them because they were amazing i'll give you one instance they say that the listed sign intentionally repair is the gold standard for any repair you agree yes rule surgeons did not have the mesh which we import correct i'm talking of early 1880s and the rural surgeons started using mosquito net is the myth wow and i was the editor of the surgery and they sent the article to me i published it it was a fantastic thing to do and all these surgeons from i have already instituted from the mid teaching hospital said that you are bringing the reputation of indian surgery down which has no research no study and then i wrote to them that if you want to do controlled trials and studies is a i is a only institute hospital better prepared to do that or a 10-bit nursing home in a rural or tribal but you can imagine the innovation yes the surgeons and they were [Music] nobody would accept what they did then i did a comparative study between mosquito net which i had analyzed at the iit kanpur which is the texture center of india and i found that it was totally comparable to the important difference in terms of the chemistry the tensor string everything melting point everything and i did a study at the british canadian procedural hospitals between the [Music] according to me evidence-based medicine is the greatest roadblock to advancing surgery it ties us up it imprisons us it doesn't permit us to think laterally to think that there is anything more except what the total should be i think we should remove evidence from surgery because the first leprosy polycystectomy was done by a german who made his laparoscope by the tubing of his daughter's bicycle because in a small town the professors of germany told him that he would be removed from the association he continued he continued his 98 patients his professors had him put on trial for manslaughter and he spent five years on trial in mail or in jail that is the curse of evidence-based message because every medicine says that you can only do what we tell you to do anyway your question now come on you have no chance to ask um so we actually did a online call with the residents and they had some questions one of them asked what is the uh like role of all these single incision laparoscopic surgeries or notes right now compared with conventional laparoscopy in public sector like is it worth it would according to the cost in financial catering of india in the history of surgery there are only three patient-friendly revolutions first was asception second was anesthesia and the third is minimal excessive surgery offers no pain which offers minimal amount of medication which offers a very short uh it affords almost no cosmetic assault and most important in a developing country it permits early return to work and family the economic effects of minimal access surgery are great for the country because within five days or so the person can be back to you and that i'm not presenting it because i did it i'm presenting it as a national economic view a farmer can be back to work doing his work within the week the first episode this was a lady of a former lady from ut the next morning when i went to see her he said why aren't you giving me food what is wrong with me you know and on the next day she insisted on wanting to go home because we were scared out of abundant precaution i kept in the water for four days but that is the difference between open surgery and laparoscopically there was a great resistance to for donor kidneys once laparoscopic donor procedure started people were ready to give a donative because the donor was not required to be in hospital for more than two days back to work within 10 days so you see people when when the first leprosy was done british surgeons wrote british services wrote in indian journal that laparoscopic surgery is inappropriate a developing country that we are too poor because almost a colonial rule that created two ignorant super too inefficient to do what they can do and then i wrote back that the main indication for laparoscopic surgery is is a great financial group so i would say that this small incision surgery is good for the patient it is good for the patient's family it's good for the patient's economy and is wonderful for the national park that's correct sir i have another question uh with the india being such a populist country and so much surgical exposure available some residents still have to go abroad for learning new skills and acquiring knowledge so what do you think are the lacunae in the current indian medical education system and what other things that you feel should be changed i think the current medical education system we teach what we are teaching on the british world we teach for practice in large cities a major population is in small towns villages our curriculum and our practical training should include the surgery that is done you see all our chiefs say you must specialize super specialist but in the village if you go there and i've been there hundreds of times uh you'll see that one surgeon will refine for uh extra dural he put a human empire he set a fracture he treat a compound fracture he'll treat peritonitis that is the speciality he is a super specialist tumor species general surgeon and that is something we should have as part of training for serving the indian property and i have seen in slaughter in especially in remote areas tribal areas surgeons who are mbbs do extreme surgery i've seen that out of necessity they've trained themselves they come for a short course go back and then they start doing uh a colon they come back use in mainstreaming and there are curriculum and i think if you really spend two months in a rural hospital you will feel so happy so proud that you might want to continue working here because everybody's you know walks around like cousins in our five-star hospital fish candy and uh and all that but we inner satisfaction you would get if you are doing an appendix to me in a patient who has traveled for two days to come and reach you the same test it is worth doing it's almost the same as the heart transplant in a big hospital and they will still have instruments in boiling water on a premise stove all right i've seen that and they do better and he would do a better appendix than i but we don't see real indian self if you want to see it you will get thrilled and you will have you'll be on a high if you see even in the 500 hospital like you know they have fantastic surgeries being done the volume is dependent and they become with which they work the with this lever is inspiring you know i i feel not only humble but i feel sort of insignificant when i come back build up on the minimal access surgery uh what do you think about robotic surgeries and do you think that india with its gdp right now which is being spent on the health care system can we afford robotic surgery and that's a very good question and i'm very unpopular because of my views you see there was a time when india was the largest importer of the robot in the world three four years back everybody wanted a robot every hospital within 20 meters of each other would want to have its own water it was a prestige and every surgeon wanted to but if you do a robotic surgery for [Music] for foreign purpose everything is used randomly for the sake of saying that i use it for the hospital to advertise that we have a robot you say i think it is a waste of money [Music] both have given a very deep view of when [Music] right lot of time extra for setting up the whole thing and one thing i must tell you is the complications of a robot are not found in surgical journals the communications of a robot are found in law firms and then you find the medical legal problem you realize there's a lot of complications because very often people jump on the bank bank bandwagon so nowadays people are learning laparoscopy surgeries directly without doing enough open surgeries cholecystectomy for example what are your views and your advice on that i feel i don't call myself a circle i call myself a general kid i think that laparoscopic surgery is the logical advance in general surgery brought about by nutrition general surgery is the basis of also whether it's cardiac with a neurology neurosurgery your general surgery should be served whatever speciality you do i think you should start with a fair amount of time spent in residency in general you see when you convert a laptop correct if you don't know how to do a straightforward simple open that pulley how are you going to do uh open polycystectomy for a senior surgeon who finds the laptop you must be good at your open purchase technique because only then you'll be able to do it difficult you don't convert a simple slap for you you can lab fully when it's very difficult and then suddenly could not bend any lap pulley and then you are expected to do a difficult reversible left pulling by open method is going to be pretty difficult i think that you cannot lose your balance between strong general surgery especially yes i agree so tell us about your the idea behind starting c must and how residents should uh take benefit of that organization like is this is it beneficial at residency level or post residency questions and the camera operator was new he didn't know so i was putting my reputation on the line because you set up nobody familiar but and i will come back and ask myself have i done any good the important thing was that from every trip one or two people come to bombay and that's how slowly we started training and let's stay and then i felt that the guy would register for the course he paid for the course either in the car and then he'd go away and he never knew what was happening then i realized that we should have a permanent center where we could have a aluminized system where you could follow them up see what they are doing after the course and that is the purpose and are very fortunate to have a strong connection with the stars family [Music] you see at that time the import duty was so heavy that it was cheaper for me and my wife to go to tutoring put the instruments between my wife's sarees and bring them back and i do no conscious problems because i was using the instrument for a free hospital not making any money out of it i was using it at that time and my wife always used to tell me a surgeon buy jewelry for the while then you buy instruments for yourself [Music] i insisted that if i have to read the chairman of shrimah it should be an autonomous body where nobody would interfere then surgeons would be certain without empathy and that is why i think he must have a it is continuing on the same exactly the same lines uh because sun farmer is now taking it over and they are allowing autonomous so the faculty would reply to them because the faculty were selected not only because they were experts because of the love for teaching and they would happily continue interacting with all the other thing is that we were about to start a very very interesting thing distance learning itself and we all said we started all our uh a horse you can train only 15 feet that's a drop in the ocean as if we go to the surgeon retaining many many and that was my concept two years sir uh in your perspective you say she must have stopped but from my perspective i think cmas has already trained so many surgeons around india and world that they are teaching this in their own centers so in a way she must all the surgeons embody simas and it is a personification that wherever people are teaching that is seamless no that is true i appreciate that but the structure is there the instruments are there the equipment is there the same faculties energy is now starting you see because of the lockdown the the new sea master is is now doing hybrid process where the theory part is done there and only the hands-on part is [Music] go back to work because yes i think people things are moving in the hybrid way itself even conferences partly our offline party are online even teaching is online offline we have telemedicine and face-to-face concentrations on uh we were already moving in the direction of telemedicine lockdown just brought it to us faster but if you don't do a pr you're not really examining and always when something new comes ask yourself is this something really for the patient benefit or this for the benefit of the manufacture and research because today a lot of things are coming in which actually i had to have written a book on my journey and it is about to be sent to the public and i have to take the publisher's permission for this interview because i didn't want to get into any copyright issues and they gave me permission for this interview and in this i written very clearly that don't jump on the bandwagon could you make sure the bandwagon is good [Music] completely i completely agree so when will the book be coming out [Music] so what is the title of the book the title of the book first was the accidental surgeon because it became a surgeon by cockroaches and things like that but now i am thinking to change it to more than just surgery because the surgeon you see when i went for my pilot exam i failed because the examiner he took the airport he said that doctor i thought i was bound to pass because i flew beautifully but when i got down and put my hand out to receive his congratulations he took my hand and said doctor you failed i said what he said yes you did not pay enough attention to the checklist there is more to flying a plane there's more to being a pilot than flying a plane and then i realized there's more to being a surgeon than operating [Music] so another question is uh a lot of uh ms students or residents are opting for mch and not doing general surgery because the general consensus and the public is mch doctor will be or surgeon will be a better uh person to perform surgery but a few of them still don't want to give mcat so what are you your views about that like should people it's again like jumping on the bandwagon because a lot of people are doing mch you could not go for mch without doing okay and i think that means because the background was solid they're jumping straight into msh i think is not a good one because your basic you see surgery whatever surgery the fundamentals of surgery the fundamental surgeries are sacrosanct they cannot be discovered i mean it is economically right you might earn much more within lgh but if they have a general surgery complication you'll have to call it so we have a question from the audience somebody is asking what is the definition of a good surgeon i have written a chapter in the making of a surgeon the good surgeon all right good said everyone feels that the hand is the most important thing i used to tell every participant that if you analyze total restriction surgery only thirty percent are because of opportunity seventy percent of mishaps in surgery how due to cognitive kill and cognitive skill is something that's never taught not in not in a training center not in three years of first grade nobody realizes the importance of communication which is where your brain which is the biggest computer in the world looks at what's happened finds out what went wrong you see it is self-taught decision making is a cognitive skill accountability is a cognitive skill if a surgeon doesn't consider himself accountable he is a fraud he passes the blame to other people accountability is an essential part of surgery correct you might be a wonderful hand surgeon when anything goes wrong you blame the nurse you blame the anesthetist you blame the decision you're not a surgeon right he doesn't have the courage of herself he doesn't have the commitment of itself and he cannot have the respect of his colleagues we cannot take response then there is another aspect like decision making which is so vital you have only about three minutes to take the call in those three minutes you're thinking of what happened in similar circumstances your brain is racing to give you an answer your team and you must have virgin is just one individual in the team the old days of the surgeon bringing the prima donna and saying put the light on me are gone especially with minimal accessory where everybody sees what so being a surgeon is much more than operating and there are many aspects to surgery like empathy when i was the houseman we had to do a lot of there's no surgery no birth unit no procedure all the burns would come to general surgery and the husband had to do all the burns before the visiting hours and i was doing burns and i was having rough my chief was standing behind me dr karmaka and the patient was must have been in pain was shouting and i saw him and it was showing give me a fire the commander came up to me put his hand on my shoulder said with one year the surgeon must first feel this patient stroke that is what surgeon means he must care for the patient in every aspect empathy for afghanistan kindness is so important my father was but he was my main mentor i will you see from cricket practice here to km here is the expensive parallel i'd go straight from there and we'd go home by train together i'm talking of the 50s none of you were around with that uh and i used to see him very that time was the build area it was the ghetto of bombay the tuberculosis is were starving you know and he was working in that and i worked and saw him work and i saw what empathy can do to cure you know he was not he was the physician he was the family of the physician of this patient but part of the family and these are the things which you don't learn and nobody teaches you and there are so many similar qualities a surgeon must require the hand is emphasized so greatly that 70 of the other things you need and that i think if people are aware of a thing like completing surgery you have to teach it to yourself nobody has taught you you see it you read about cognitive surgery now there's a lot of literature and cognitive surgery and you read about it and you find the importance and you you teach yourself leadership the surgeon has to be a leader how to make the team totally confident of your support you see there's so many aspects which are totally totally not talk we have to teach it to ourselves when you go into residency going with the idea of doing much more than what you are and i can tell you that in my time we were blessed to have the best possible group of surgeons they were giants not only were they great surgeons but they were great human beings these are but one said they all wasn't i mean charlie pinto after this the whole group of surgeons who were training in km in the 50s and the 60s were blessed and you'll find that there's so many persons far better than me in india who are in that group before they say you saw so many of them and we were blessed to have that and i feel honestly that the only system you see would say i will come for a lecture two o'clock south side he would come at five o'clock but he will leave his consulting room to come because five o'clock was his consulting room those were here honorees their total commitment my we had a list which started at eight o'clock and finished at seven o'clock at the jj hospital and next day russia didn't come because possibly run for such a big list we [Music] [Music] working hours and the peak working life for thinking and looking after patients and i think it is one of the saddest things that the only system was removed because the only system because every unit was literally competing with each other you know i had 14 cases in my list today you know that that was the thing of and that time anderson wouldn't say time up with the answer because they were also enjoying working with seven o'clock the things have changed if you get back that old drive the time doesn't matter finishing the list is what is important you you the factory workers who clock in and clock out you see we have no time limit the other important thing in the talking of a good surgeon when you go to see a patient after surgery you see uh today the surgeon looks at the investigation talks to the nurse of the husband and walks out i have had eight surgeries done on myself and i can tell you that the most important event and if your surgeon shows that he has no time for you it is a disgrace if you don't sit next see all the investigations and decide what to do i think the patient is a human being he's not an object he's not a bad number he is a human being who needs physical and emotional content that is where the making of a surgeon is also very important yes i agree sir what are your questions asked sir we all know a large bit of your professional life but a bit of your personal life is still hidden from many of the viewers so forgive us forgive us forgive us the questions we have a list of questions i fell in love with my wife when she was and that is my personal life i have three children who are surgeons one is a general surgeon in canada i'm an orthopedic surgeon in manchester and our daughter who's the bottomless chef and that's the last word in cooking i have six grandchildren one is a veterinary surgeon one is in the last year of medical college and then as i said i represented the js in every sport and i greatly enjoy teaching i don't know if i can teach but i enjoy talking and see patients and seek food hardly any chance to talk in the house yes sir we have prepared a list of rapid fire questions which are like uh yes sir so one thing which you missed from the era that you were a resident from the areas of the 70s it is one thing that you missed which is not available 50 60s there's 77 they made us feel that we were important you see uh closely watched we'd have a fresh start april every day we went presentable when we went for early morning but they were so nice so human i cannot tell you what wonderful they call us home they come for picnics with us you see there was a bond and i tell you i was surprised for my ms and i was married and children and it was difficult and i would sit late at night study as the guy was coming with a call book for me to stop him attend my course when i was not disturbed and on the pin question he would write for my next morning round i've seen this patient this was his problem this is what i've done now that was the one we had in my turn i would do this with my husband you see how hardly got any day off when i was husband at night we'd phone him up wake him up and then put the phone down he died and we would just uh keep the phone until one day sherrod was singing i was talking to my wife and sent her that from that day are this was just two months before the human heart transfer okay and we were documenting it on a very on a camera and uh was taking the heart that we had taken out to thin and it was on a steel tray and the heart fell down when sherry tried to catch it it would slip you know it was beating right up there was taking all that and centered which you know it helps all right but so many times i just don't pick it up and then i get a firing why don't you take your calls you drink your big shot but you have embraced technology sir sir uh any one country that you would like to visit next south island of new zealand i've been there before it's not the most beautiful holiday place but uh you know at that time two and a half years after the fellow sent his article so we were never on level that that is when i started taking sabbaticals every year to go to a particular place learn there and come and bring back what i learned foreign time i learned religions and repressed promises with uh stasis because we were trying to do at jj there was no experience and we're trying to do liver transplant you know stupidity and arabic and uh then i thought i learned from stuff eleven two stars and started about suffering defeat and i came back and said that we're not fit for liver transplant we yes sir another hypothetical question to an outstanding unit in india please remember that much better than what you are doing is being done in india [Music] [Music] is a good part of surgery a guy who is quietly doing his surgery doing it well without advertising go to him that's true that's complete sir a hypothetical biggest drawback in india is not enough exposure to yourself research is so important for developing self it teaches you thinking in a totally different thinking of language you're not thinking of patience you're thinking of how to improve over ourselves it's it's a it's a totally mental game you know you might do your donor transplant for heart but that is a thought process his sin had developed and passed on to his resume i think indian says he will improve greatly if part of our training is agreed sir sir uh if hypothetically if you were to do only one surgery throughout your life which one would it be so to put it in other words which would be your favorite surgery to do or which is your favorite surgery to perform because it's such a common subject and if you can teach someone what you learn from this time i think that's the best decision you can teach someone [Music] you will from this minute you will discover you are destructive in your mind a hundred times every step so that is completely free to understand where your mind is before i did my left kodi i did it in my mind a hundred times because i had never seen election the news seemed relaxing the only left pulling was i could share my friend who's a great surgeon sent me a video he did his first lecture six weeks before me when he after he said his first video and all the residents who come home you'd see that dinner we would practice leftover before six weeks then you have to make sure the patient is safe it's true sir sir i wish i wish we could get to learn her like tensions maybe my residence was his name yes he hospital is that your student your restaurant does better surgery than my purity that is the greatest joy to achieve uh so how many languages can you speak [Music] that's it so um are you a music person like while operating would you prefer pin drop silence in the background or would you prefer a background sound which is playing on from the moment i scrub i have been outside because when i'm scrubbing and saying my prayers i'm praying for the patient so nobody will talk to me when i'm coming [Music] there discussion generator for example if i'm doing an estimate according to me the best way of learning precision because the anastasia should be like uh doing machines good very good perfect perfect stitch when i take a basket and according to me that is the best way of keeping your concentration and obtaining perfection because these two are so important have [Music] i love cooking you see my daughter is the affordable chef so whenever i visit here we cook together now in the lockdown there is nothing to do so i started cooking and you know how to best learn cooking go to youtube go to youtube you see the same video five times you can make the dish as good as absolutely the butter chicken is excellent so what does your comfort go to food which is your comfort food real food so which book would you recommend all of us should read once in our life [Music] [Music] m frustrated and bankrupt for 30 years trying to do liver transplant really succeeded when when he was totally broke every department has said he will throw him out that you can't afford it because the expenses were high and the results [Music] and then read books like okay so would you consider yourself uh as a person who's outgoing like would you rather spend your time outside at a social gathering or inside doing your own stuff with my clothes that is not social i mean i would like to have i guess a good surgeon should have empathy decision so i think those values kind of lack in our generation right now especially empathy so what else would you do if you look upon your patient with your mother or your uncle that's no [Music] you have of your patient that if you think of the patient as one lakh rupees if you do the operation it's not the same thing which if you think of a patient this is my aunt's daughter my niece we will have the empathy empathy depends on your view of the patient it's not difficult to get empathy you will just view your passion number 17 you won't get anything if given a choice to play golf or fly a plane if you had to choose one thing [Music] so 2015 okay so uh what would you say is your biggest regret in professional and personal life one the reason they do it ego [Music] [Music] only two regressions [Music] him in 1980 recorded started okay so that's very surprising considering it's coming from you i am the most stupid person you are struggling so one of the viewers want to ask you a question they are asking for undergraduates how do they know that surgery is their calling and how do they decide how do they accomplish that surgery is the field that they would like like i told you during my [Music] so what would you say was your happiest moment so [Music] a great team is there any message you would like to give us as young budding surgeons to avoid and be like you see never advertised [Music] [Music] you see [Music] [Music] ultimately brother [Music] learn surgery from you even if we attend one opd with you sir i think we will learn a lot because today's session just listening to you talk i think was very enlightening and we'll try to implement with you thank you so much you

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